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Otherwise, you should close this page and view another page. Cid also known by his nickname " The Rainmaker " is the overarching antagonist of the film Looper.
Cid becomes a mob boss in the future with a prosthetic jaw and telekinetic abilities, or loosely referred to throughout the film as a "TK" or telekinetically-able person. He closes all loops, including old Joseph Simmons , as the result of his mother's death thirty years prior.
As a child, he is portrayed by actor Pierce Gagnon. He was not seen as an adult and only mentioned. Cid was born in the year to his mother Sara Emily Blunt and a unnamed father. It's Joe's older self Bruce Willis , who knocks him out and flees. Joe was supposed to close his loop, but now his future self is on the run. Then the film shows us exactly why Joe is fleeing: In his future, he met a wonderful woman who saved him from drug addiction, only to watch her be murdered by the Rainmaker's men.
Joe goes back to his apartment, only to find Abe's henchman Kid Blue Noah Segan is pursuing him, so he ultimately sets a meeting with Old Joe at the diner where he used to go after each hit by carving the place into his own arm so it makes a scar for his future self to see.
Old Joe explains that he stopped the closing of his own loop because the Rainmaker is wreaking havoc on the future, and that led to the death of his wife. He received a set of numbers from a friend in the future which reveal the date of birth and hospital code of the Rainmaker, and he plans to use it to kill him as a child, changing the future and saving his wife. Abe's henchmen arrive and both versions of Joe escape, but not before Joe steals a piece of Old Joe's map to the Rainmaker.
Joe realizes that Old Joe is killing all three children born on the same date in the same hospital, which means he'll eventually come for Cid. He decides to stay at the farm and protect Sara and Cid, but one of Abe's henchmen also eventually shows up to look for him. That's when Joe discovers a secret Sara's been keeping about Cid. Cid panics and falls down the stairs, triggering a telekinetic episode Sara also has minor "TK" powers, but Cid's are deadly in which he explodes both Jesse and much of the farmhouse.
It's then that Joe realizes Cid is the future Rainmaker — and because it's now in his memory, Old Joe realizes it at the same time, but is waylaid when Kid Blue captures him. Old Joe manages to break loose and slaughters everyone at Abe's headquarters, then heads to the farm to kill Cid, setting up a showdown with his past self. Old Joe arrives at the farmhouse and fires a shot at Cid, who is struck on the cheek. Before he can explode his TK powers again, Sara calms him down and sends him running into the sugar cane fields while Old Joe continues firing at them.
Joe realizes he's part of a cycle of violence, a loop with greater consequences, and decides to end it. He turns his blunderbuss on himself and fires into his heart, erasing Old Joe and saving Sara, Cid, Old Joe's wife, and the future.
The segment of the film right after Old Joe arrives in the past gives us a clear, if brief, picture of what happened to him: He moved to Shanghai instead of France taking Abe's advice that he should go to China , spent all the money he saved on drugs and then took up life as a hitman again not a looper to fund his habit.
All that changed when he met his wife Summer Qing , who cleaned him up and showed him the only real happiness he'd ever known. With Joe's decision to turn his gun on himself, that's all over. The future Old Joe knew never happens in any form in the main timeline of the film, because Joe will never age into that version of himself and travel to Shanghai. Perhaps in some alternate timeline Old Joe and his wife are able to live happily ever after in the absence of the Rainmaker, but Joe made a choice to sacrifice himself and his potential future to save others.
At the time of Looper 's present, Joe is told by people who've been there that the future is a world in which Old Joe murdered Sara, sending Cid into the rage that would ultimately make him the Rainmaker and creating chaos within the realms of organized crime. With Old Joe's death, that is no longer the case, and while the film never shows us a glimpse of their future, we do now know that their present is one filled with possibility. In the film's climactic moments, we see that in a moment of crisis Sara is able to have a calming effect on Cid's TK abilities, and he is finally able to embrace her more and call her "Mom" he previously called her Sara since she allowed someone else to raise him during her partying days.
Their relationship is stronger than ever in the wake of Joe's death, and the car that Old Joe drove out to the farm is full of silver bars, making them financially secure. With that in mind, and their combined TK abilities, it's possible that Cid will grow up to be a person of great influence, but in a positive way, helping the world rather than breaking it with his gifts and his resources.
Seth tells Joe that the Rainmaker's future ambitions include closing all loops and taking over all mob operations from other bosses, consolidating power in a way that would break the current system. Because Cid no longer becomes the Rainmaker, that won't happen, which means the old system of several bosses is likely still in place in the future that exists after Joe's death.
The lack of a Rainmaker won't erase organized crime; in fact, it might even strengthen the old way of doing things, but the events set in motion by Old Joe will no doubt still have an impact. In the past, Old Joe still killed Abe and all of his associates, and Joe made the choice of killing himself rather than closing his loop. The bosses in the future will have knowledge of these events, and may adjust the loop closing system accordingly.
Questions that the movie doesn't answer, ideas the movie hints at, character motivations, all of it. On Monday, we'll run the full video interview but, for now, we provide answers to ten unexplained mysteries from the film with the help of Johnson himself. The first time Old Joe pops back to the present, he escapes. Later we see him die in the same place.
Which happens first and why the deception? The first time we see Old Joe and he escapes is actually the second time he appears in the straight story. According to Johnson, and evident upon a second viewing of the film, the straight line of narrative is that Joe becomes a looper, closes his loop by killing Old Joe this is the second time we see the scene in the field , goes to China, meets his wife, then gets sent back without the hood and escapes, setting off the rest of the movie, which is the first and third time we see him.
Because now we're following him and I wanted the protagonist to be young Joe," Johnson said. In that timeline though, Cid would grow up normal because Sarah wasn't killed by Joe.
How does that all work? How does the Rainmaker exist in a timeline where Old Joe didn't kill his mom? Unfortunately, this is the chicken and the egg explanation.
There is no answer. One thing is dependent on the other but couldn't have happened if the other didn't. I'll let Johnson take the lead here. If it's important to you to really justify that beyond 'It makes sense in a story type way,' you'll have to get into multiple time lines existing in neverending loops of logic. You can shoehorn it into making sense," he said.
He does, however, point to the mention of the Rainmaker having a fake jaw in the future, then being shot in the present, as one particular connection. Although, in my mind, what happens is cause his memory is shifting to accommodate, that's one of the things that's changed in his memory. Both times Old Joe comes back to the present, he's running late on Young Joe's watch.
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